Roland Cloud's new Zenology synth not working in DP??

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Roland Cloud's new Zenology synth not working in DP??

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Is it just me, or is it true that Roland Cloud's latest flagship synth, Zenology, is not working in DP? It is a VST3-only synth, and fails the test by DP.

I would expect that, given the massive resources that Roland has, that this would be an exemplary example of VST3 programming, so I was very surprised to see it fail the DP test.

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Re: Roland Cloud's new Zenology synth not working in DP??

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Hi Terry:

I will go out on a limb that it isn't a Roland issue.

I am new to Roland Cloud, but have had several VST3 plugins fail validation in the past on DP 10.11 - both under Windows and macOS. Using Reason or MPC as a host, the plugins work fine.

I don't have a Windows machine handy, however, under macOS, the following VST3 fails (and the VST2 or AU version works):
  • Roland Cloud Plug-ins: AU version works
    Reason Rack Plug-in EFX: it passes, but doesn't show-up correctly in DP - have to use the AU version for effects and the VST3 as an instrument.
    Spitfire Audio plug-ins (LABs and others): VST2 version works
    ROLI Studio Drums and Player: AU version works
    Black Rooster Audio effects: AU version works
    Klangheim effects: VST2 version works
In many cases, I have filed a TechLink with MOTU and they reply they are aware of the issue.

Suggestion -- file a TechLink with MOTU so they are aware of the Windows issues.

Will be filing a TechLink for the macOS VST3 issue with Roland Cloud today.
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Re: Roland Cloud's new Zenology synth not working in DP??

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rp88.2 wrote:Hi Terry:

I will go out on a limb that it isn't a Roland issue.
Well, it might be a Roland issue. I am a regular user of Cantabile Performer for live shows, and its developer has stated a few times that Roland "does things their own way - again" or words to that effect. He had to do quite a bit of work with Roland to get most of their cloud offerings to work in his hosting software. He did it, but it was by including code other plugin makers did not need.

Still, I will follow your lead and submit a techlink report to MOTU.

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Re: Roland Cloud's new Zenology synth not working in DP??

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I'm coming back in from the limb and saying it is a MOTU issue.

My Roland Cloud Synths (all of them including Zenology) do not pass examination as of 11.32 in Sonoma 14.5 - Applies to VST3 and AU.

Several AIR Music Tech Synths fail as well.

However: Every single plugin on my computer has passed examination in Reaper and Logic Pro X.
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Re: Roland Cloud's new Zenology synth not working in DP??

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Soundmanmark wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:31 am I'm coming back in from the limb and saying it is a MOTU issue.

My Roland Cloud Synths (all of them including Zenology) do not pass examination as of 11.32 in Sonoma 14.5 - Applies to VST3 and AU.

Several AIR Music Tech Synths fail as well.

However: Every single plugin on my computer has passed examination in Reaper and Logic Pro X.
I'm coming at this a bit late, but have you reported this to MOTU by any chance? Can't always take it for granted MOTU is aware of these issues.
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Re: Roland Cloud's new Zenology synth not working in DP??

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Soundmanmark wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:31 amSeveral AIR Music Tech Synths fail as well.
I know we are in a Windows forum here, but there are Windows and Mac AIR Music public betas that were posted a while back. I had some issues with them... don't really remember now. They are here:

https://www.airmusictech.com/beta-download/

Don't know what their state of progress has been, but they haven't posted a second beta yet. :(
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