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Can't find zoom command in Commands window

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The image below shows the zoom slider in the Sequence Editor. Is this specific zoom in the Commands window somewhere under a different name? I don't find this particular vertical zoom there, which zooms the waveform or note grid without changing the height of the tracks. I'd love to adjust this with the keyboard if possible.

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The magnifying glass icon in your screenshot is for vertical zooming of the waveform view. If you want to zoom horizontally, yes there are extensive key commands to do so. Go to the Setup menu>Commands and type Zoom into the top of the window.

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Yes, I know, and this zoom behaves a little differently from "Zoom in Vertically." This one does not resize the track vertically in the Sequence editor, it only zooms the waveform or MIDI without adjusting the track height. I use it all the time, and I would like to access it with the keyboard instead of the mouse. It does not appear to be in the Commands window, and therefore it appears impossible to create a shortcut for it.
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I agree this is a good candidate for a keyboard shortcut. As a workaround you can use ctl-alt-cmd-W to show the soundbite in the waveform editor, then use the vertical zoom keyboard command to change the displayed vertical scale.
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That's an interesting workaround, but it unfortunately doesn't help me do my editing or see MIDI more clearly in the Sequence editor.
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jborum wrote:That's an interesting workaround, but it unfortunately doesn't help me do my editing or see MIDI more clearly in the Sequence editor.
Your original graphic shows an audio track, not a MIDI track.

What specifically are you not able to do in terms of viewing or editing a MIDI track?

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I'd think if you edit MIDI in the Sequence Editor, you'd really want the track height to change when you zoom. Otherwise you get a rather restricted note range.
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bayswater wrote:I'd think if you edit MIDI in the Sequence Editor, you'd really want the track height to change when you zoom. Otherwise you get a rather restricted note range.
Which begs the question "why would you want to edit MIDI in the sequence editor?" lol I'm serious. It's most inconvenient compared to the MIDI editor.
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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:
Which begs the question "why would you want to edit MIDI in the sequence editor?" lol I'm serious. It's most inconvenient compared to the MIDI editor.
I almost always edit MIDI in the sequence editor. Fast and convenient for me. To each his/her own Mike and thanks to DP design we can both do it our own way!


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How true! It never ceases to amaze me how differently people work in so many ways (not just DP) to accomplish similar results.
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I suspect you're doing different things. E.g., not easy to do multiple tracks in one view in the SE, and velocity editing can get difficult when notes are dense and cover up the the velocity markers.
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One advantage to editing MIDI in the MIDI editor, is that if you press OPTION while you aren't hovering over a note, you can click and it will zoom in vertically by some amount. Pressing SHIFT-OPTION will snap you back to your previous Zoom.

That same process zooms you horizontally in the sequence editor which is unfortunate since there are other means (shortcuts) to zoom horizontally.
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@bayswater - Indeed, I want the tracks to zoom vertically without changing height, and I'd prefer to do that without using the mouse if possible.

@magicd - My specific situation at the moment is editing many thousands of samples for new sample libraries. I need to alternately see the attacks and the nearly-invisible note tails, so I'm zooming vertically in and out of audio constantly. In the sequence editor I set the track heights so that the set of tracks I'm currently editing fills the screen. I'd like to vertically zoom the audio without changing the track heights so that the things I'm working on don't jump around and stay on screen.

The software can do this but it seems to only be accessible by clicking this little icon with the mouse, which slows me down quite a bit when doing it thousands of times over. Is there no keyboard command available for this particular zoom in the sequence editor?
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Re: Can't find zoom command in Commands window

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Try the Option Key, hold it down when you zoom one track and they all should get bigger.
I think I tried that once and it worked.
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