100% Repeatable Crash Switching to Clips Window

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Re: 100% Repeatable Crash Switching to Clips Window

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Maestro6767 wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:06 pm This phenomenon also occurs with INTEL Macs.
My computer environment is
MacPro 2013
Xeon
MacOS:Monterey

I am gradually learning how this phenomenon occurs and how to avoid it.

In my environment, this happens 100% of the time when I add the “Control Surface” driver. I have a KONPLETE KONTROL M32, so I had to add a driver for it in the “Control Surface Settings”. If I add two or more tracks, the ClipWindow does not open and the rainbow circle appears.

However, if all Control Surfaces are removed, this phenomenon is 100% avoided and ClipWindow will start normally even if many tracks are added.

If Control Surfaces are added again, ClipWindow will not start. This is the appearance of the Rainbow Circle.

I would be grateful if you all could try this workaround to see if this happens only in my environment.

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Re: 100% Repeatable Crash Switching to Clips Window

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Winslow Schiller wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:07 pm Well, well, well: 11.22 does not crash. 11.33 crashes if there is more than one track (any type). Bizarre. It crashes if I load a project with more than one track, and it crashes when I add more than one track to any otherwise empty project. I'm on a mid 2012 Mac Pro 5,1, btw.
I am experiencing the same phenomenon. My Mac is a MacPro 2013. No apple silicone involved, MacOS is 12.7 (Monterey).

Do you have Contol Surfaces set up in DP? Have you added the driver? Try deleting all of those Control Surfaces settings.
You can still have MIDI devices connected. Anyway, try deactivating the Control Surfaces setting.
In my case, that worked around the problem.
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Re: 100% Repeatable Crash Switching to Clips Window

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Same for me. When I use a control surface (MetagridPro or an iPad Eucon controller), Clips window selection hangs.
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Re: 100% Repeatable Crash Switching to Clips Window

Post by Winslow Schiller »

I'm the OP for this bug. I tried deleting all Control Surfaces and that fixes the Clips Crash© in anything after 11.2.

In post 11.2 versions, adding a CS and tracks and then switching to clips causes the Clips Crash©. It looks like the common factor is Intel based Mac Pros. - Winslow
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