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No sound when editing MIDI

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Tell me please, why when you make MIDI changes during playback, the sound disappears when editing? Is it possible to turn it off?

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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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So you're "making MIDI changes" while DP is in playback, and the sound disappears. What kinds of MIDI changes are you making? Editing in the graphic editor? Copy/Paste in the tracks overview? Changing the MIDI output device/channel? Does the entire sound disappear? Or just track? Or just the note you are dragging/editing? What do you want to turn off? The silencing itself?

DP probably silences things because MIDI operations during playback can cause problems like stuck notes, conflicts, controllers that are not zeroed out, etc. Not to mention issues with routing the MIDI and audio of virtual instruments that are changing mid-stream. So you might not be able to get the kind of behavior you are after. Even if your own "changes" are relatively simple, DP is probably behaving in a way that prevents problems for users who might make more complex changes.
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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When I make a edit in "PianoRoll"
any action with MIDI-notes (change in length, etc.)stops the sound of the edited note
Recently I often spent a lot of time in Reaper and the current behavior in editing MIDI did not notice

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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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You might try running DP in "Live" mode. Editing something that is pre-rendered (as DP does when not running in Live mode) would necessarily mute audio.
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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In the Live Mode mode, the same thing happens :(
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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Do you have "Audible Mode" enabled?
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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Tritonemusic wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 9:07 am Do you have "Audible Mode" enabled?
Yes :)
Everyone also has no sound when you edit a note during playing?
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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L2A wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 9:15 am
Tritonemusic wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 9:07 am Do you have "Audible Mode" enabled?
Yes :)
Everyone also has no sound when you edit a note during playing?
I just tried it, and I can hear the notes change pitch as I drag them up or down during playback.
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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Not the Pitch – length
Look at it – https://youtu.be/tdxW-S_Kgd4?feature=shared
When you change the length, the sound stops
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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L2A wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 9:59 am Not the Pitch – length
Look at it – https://youtu.be/tdxW-S_Kgd4?feature=shared
When you change the length, the sound stops
Okay, sorry about that. I'm getting the same results as you.
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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I'm not sure, but I think this is how it has always worked.

It makes sense to me that DP can't just have a note's start or end cross before or after the moving wiper during an edit.

Again, it's one thing to think of the most simple scenario-- i.e., moving one note's end while the wiper is moving/playing. But DP also allows you to select and move any and ALL notes and drag things around that would greatly mess with space/time. DP is just creating a simple rule to prevent chaos and stuck notes by releasing notes that are currently being changed during playback.
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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Was it always? I can't remember whether it was 25 years ago in DP and MIDI with external synth ,,,
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Re: No sound when editing MIDI

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L2A wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 10:20 am Was it always? I can't remember whether it was 25 years ago in DP and MIDI with external synth ,,,
I'm not sure. It might have behaved differently before.

I still can't get used to how DP has at various points made more and more things pay attention to the grid snap setting. Before it was just dragging things; then, it was lasso selection (which used to always be off grid regardless of grid enable state), then it was moving the wiper itself, which now snaps if the grid is enabled. I still hate it. Can't get used to it.
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