DP 7.24 problems with windows and sample rate.

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sebner
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DP 7.24 problems with windows and sample rate.

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I recently upgraded all my hardware and software to the newest version of DP from 4.5 (or 4.62?, don't remember). One of the issues I had in that version was that when I would switch views in the consolidated window from mixing board to sequence editor, the window would load previous sequences and not the current sequence I was in. This is still a problem in 7.24. How can that be? The windows should follow the current selected sequence no matter what you choose. What am I doing wrong?

I know this sounds crazy but my other problem is there appears to be no sample rate conversions on bounce. I have a 48K/24bit project I am bouncing to disk after mastering, and there is no way to convert to 44.1k. No preference, no selection in the bounce dialogue box. I can import into a brand new project and convert but too many extra steps for me. I want to master at the highest rate so I don't want to make the mastering project 44.1k to start. Seems ridiculous. In the version I used before you could select the sample rate. What gives?
Mac OS 15 Sequoia, MOTU 1248, Digital Performer 11, UAD PCIe, Waves, ICON control surfaces.
sebner
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Re: DP 7.24 problems with windows and sample rate.

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Ist question still needs an answer. The second I answered for myself. Apparently there is a difference between the core audio export and the regular aiff export in terms of sample conversion.
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Re: DP 7.24 problems with windows and sample rate.

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Are all windows from the previous sequence? Or is it just one or two windows within the Consolidated Window?

That is an intermittent problem I run into. For me, it usually centers around having multiple copies of the same window open. For example, if I'm using the Graphic MIDI Edit window, and if I open a conductor track in that window, it's still possible to open another graphic MIDI Edit window with tracks in it. But if I switch to a new sequence, only one of those gets replaced by the new sequence's window, and the other remains for the previous sequence. But I've seen it do this without any particular reason, too. I usually just close the windows and start over by opening the default Tracks Window using the button in the Shortcut Bar or by using the Shift-T command.

When you open the windows fresh, they should be for the right sequence. There may be a problem related to older files. It may help to load those sequences into a new file using the Load command. I don't know that for a fact, but I'm just throwing possibilities out there.

Ultimately, it's just a little scary. There's nothing wrong with your sequence, as far as I can tell. I don't know why it does it, and every time I think I do, it'll prove me wrong, so I've given up worrying about it. These days it's pretty rare, anyway. Just keep your chunks named with obviously different names, so that the windows are easily identified. It may also help to use different color schemes in each chunk so that you'll quickly notice that the window is not right. Of course, when you hit play, you immediately notice that the cursor is not located anywhere in that window.

Just close and re-open. If you notice any other odd behaviors, load the sequence(s) into a new file.

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Re: DP 7.24 problems with windows and sample rate.

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If I am using multiple panes in a consolidated window, when I switch sequences, all the panes switch to the correct sequence. It happens mostly when I am mixing without multiple panes or editing, I want to see as many tracks as I can so I have one pane open. If I am in the first sequence of a session, I can switch views without problems. If I go to a new sequence, and then switch to another view, the view is of the previous sequence window. I can't tell you how many times I go to edit a track or change an automation parameter, only to find out I am editing the wrong sequence.

It could very well be because I am often engineering and playing on a session at the same time, so in order to facilitate a quick transition to a new take or a new song, I just record into a new sequence. Songs = sequences in my workflow. Creating a new sequence keeps all my track assignments, main mix, etc., from song to song.

Having the mixer window and the sequence open together and the selection following the sequence works fine. But, I usually only enter that workflow when I am mastering or when I am doing a final mix and I want to tweek the automation. I never really understood the usefulness of "Chunks", even though I have read the manual. I come from the analog world, so I basically use it as a tape recorder and focus my energy on editing and automation, not mastering the DAW. Probably a mistake, but you have to cut a corner somewhere, right? Thanks for the help.

What is the difference between the core audio aiff export and the aiff export? Very confusing. I am operating under the theory that I am keeping the project in the highest sample/bit rate for the entire project, as well as using SDII throughout (or .wav, or whatever), and doing my conversions/dithering after mastering and upon exporting the 2 track master.

If I unchecked dithering, which takes the internal 32 bit DP processing down to 24bit, for instance, would I continue in 32 bit throughout the project until mastering? Or does that dither from 32 bit to 24 happen internally? I know that is confusing, but ask me a question if you don't see where I am going.

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