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Converting Controller to Note data in real time?

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I would like to use my MIDI sustain pedal to play the kick drum in Model12. Is this possible? Logic has a way to do this with something called "Transformer" which will take a MIDI Controller and assign it to a Note...but I can't find anything in the DP manual like this. Any ideas? Thanks!!!
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Try MidiPipe.
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I run Logic side by side with DP to do MIDI processing that DP is not capable of. But in this case I think you might be able to use DP's CONSOLES receiving your controller and sending out Notes.
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I set it up in about 3 mins using DP's custom console

You create a slider that you assign to your foot controller then have it send notes to model12

The value for C1 is 36

For a reason I ignore, I wasn't able to use a button or a text button in the custom console. Only the slider worked.

Custom console can be REALLY powerful. read on it in the manual.
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Dwetmaster wrote:I set it up in about 3 mins using DP's custom console

You create a slider that you assign to your foot controller then have it send notes to model12

The value for C1 is 36

For a reason I ignore, I wasn't able to use a button or a text button in the custom console. Only the slider worked.

Custom console can be REALLY powerful. read on it in the manual.
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keybored0 wrote:I run Logic side by side with DP to do MIDI processing that DP is not capable of.
I obviously could be wrong, but I'd be surprised if there actually is any MIDI processing Logic does that can not be done with DP's custom consoles...
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Hey Kubi, it took me an effort not to say it...
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Okay.... Here's one... How do I use only one track and layer 16 (or 116, for that matter) MIDI channels with each assigned to a different destination VI... AND each having independent volume and pan scalable exponential maps which respond uniquely to that one track's single volume and pan data... AND each having also a unique velocity curve at it's corresponding destination VI as well. And lastly, I want to have Polypressure recorded and sent as Pitchbend to one of those VIs, with that same Polypressure biasing, not converted to, but rather adding or subtracting from, the breath controller CC#2 modulation amount assigned to a ring modulator. Have an open mind, learn a little, keep it simple....
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Create 117 MIDI track, put them all in a track folder.
Enable MIDI Multi-Record.
Make the first track your master conductor and assign its input to your MIDI controller source
Assign its output to an IAC driver bus
Assign your other tracks' input to that same IAC Driver bus.
Assign each of your MIDI tracks' output wherever you want.
Then use the MIDI real-time plugs on each track to modify the input data as you wish.

I hope I understood your request properly... :wink:
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My example actually cannot be done in DP. One track of data to edit and affect all destination VIs, separate controller maps (user-drawn scalable curves) for volume and pan and specifically the ability to bias (merge in realtime) controller data--these are the key elements. Even with Logic, one would have to know the program environment quite well to execute the latter task. Both DP and Logic have their excellence and their failings, too...It's just a good thing to be open minded and not be so nationalistic about the territory of tools. It makes for very interesting results.
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It's not necessary to chide people about being nationalistic on this board. I believe you made your point. Not to me of course, because I simply use DP to record rock and roll, not launch the space shuttle. So I don't have a need for elaborate MIDI setups/scenarios thankfully.
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I am responding to the person who posted this topic, and his background, which I sympathize with. My comments reflect my experience. I don't speak unnecessary words.
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Thank you Dwetmaster for your solution. I just got around to trying this out last night for the first time. However, I am running into this issue where it will only respond to either the sustain pedal (kick) OR the keys for a window of about a second. My workaround last night was to try to overdub the kick part after playing in the hat and snare using the pedal to get the right groove, but much to my surprise (even though I had overdub mode on) it overwrote what I had played before.

Am I missing something or am I experiencing unusual behavior? Thanks so much for your help!
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