Tilde

[Ital]

Hi, how to make this combination shift-option-tilde on a non USA keyboard, or simply how to horizontalize the tool palette.

A very annoying question i know, but i just started with DP, i apologice

ital

[newrigel]

Go to preferences and under "tools" there's an option for horizontal or vertical placement.

[Ital]

Thank you very much newrigel! A useful forum can support few annoying questions. Thanks again!
I have to say that the user guide has been thought to get a Phd on dp7 ;-(

[FMiguelez]

Thank you very much newrigel! A useful forum can support few annoying questions. Thanks again!
I have to say that the user guide has been thought to get a Phd on dp7 ;-(

EXCUSE ME?!?!?!?!?!?

What do you mean by "to get a Phd on dp7"??? Do you mean a PDF file?

[NazRat]

Phd as in doctorate. DP is a very deep program and takes a lot of reading and study to figure out the whole thing. Seems like a language issue maybe.

[FMiguelez]

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I KNOW what a PhD is... But what does that have to do with DP's User Guide?

[NazRat]

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I KNOW what a PhD is... But what does that have to do with DP's User Guide?

I wasn't saying the language issue was yours. Your English is probably better than mine. I was referring to the OP - I think he was expressing the difficulty in learning DP from the tome of a manual.

[bayswater]

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I KNOW what a PhD is... But what does that have to do with DP's User Guide?

The suggestion is you need a PhD to understand it. I know what he means. The manual is more of a reference than a learning aid. You have to know a lot about DP to make good use of the manual. (Not that it should be a learning aid -- there are other ways to learn)

[FMiguelez]

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I KNOW what a PhD is... But what does that have to do with DP's User Guide?

I wasn't saying the language issue was yours. Your English is probably better than mine. I was referring to the OP - I think he was expressing the difficulty in learning DP from the tome of a manual.

Oh, and that's why he needs a PhD, to learn DP? Duh! I get it now. Sorry, Ital. I was just asking.
But you'll see you won't really need a PhD to figure it out. Time... you'll need plenty of that one to read the whole thing

[MIDI Life Crisis]

It ain't rocket science. Not even advanced music, but if it is not in your native tongue it can probably be daunting. FWIW, I also didn't understand the o/p and he didn't clarify. Probably too busy with the tilde...

Tilde tilde, bo-bilda,
Banana fanna fo-filda,
Fee-fi-mo-milda,

Tilde!

[zaratero]

I might be OT here, but I´ll talk about one of the problems I´ve encountered with DP and languages (apart from versions which will not work properly unless OSx is in english) I hope this helps the OP too.
Even with OSX in english and a US keyboard input method (using an spanish keyboard) some commands don´t work straight out of the box. I have to reassign them to THE SAME command, and then this ain´t easy, for it will ignore some punctuations marks, so when I press them to assign them to the highlighted command field, it just does nothing. I don´t know a proper workaround, but if I keep trying for a while, pressing again and again, at some point (pressure, time held, number of times,..don´t know) it will give a DP message saying something like "this key is a punctuation mark, and is strongly reccomended not to use it as a command" and gives you the choice to finally assign it. Tilde is ammong those in the spanish keyboard.
I don´t know why this happens, but I´ve guessed it´s related to languages, because it´s the DEFAULT keystroke I wanna use for the command.

[FutureLegends]

I use international english keyboards with my Macs. Even though I'm in Sweden. I've found that stuff generally works best that way. I use OSX and all apps in english where possible.
It's pretty annoying writing the å ä and ö's they have here but pretty fast when you get used to it.

For example, shortcuts (at least a few of the more important ones) in Adobe InDesign (english version) hardly work using a swedish keyboard...

So my suggestion is, get an english keyboard to use with DP.

[FMiguelez]

I might be OT here, but I´ll talk about one of the problems I´ve encountered with DP and languages (apart from versions which will not work properly unless OSx is in english) I hope this helps the OP too.
Even with OSX in english and a US keyboard input method (using an spanish keyboard) some commands don´t work straight out of the box. I have to reassign them to THE SAME command, and then this ain´t easy, for it will ignore some punctuations marks, so when I press them to assign them to the highlighted command field, it just does nothing. I don´t know a proper workaround, but if I keep trying for a while, pressing again and again, at some point (pressure, time held, number of times,..don´t know) it will give a DP message saying something like "this key is a punctuation mark, and is strongly reccomended not to use it as a command" and gives you the choice to finally assign it. Tilde is ammong those in the spanish keyboard.
I don´t know why this happens, but I´ve guessed it´s related to languages, because it´s the DEFAULT keystroke I wanna use for the command.

Agreed.
I HATE these keyboard language discrepancies. My G5 and MacBook Pro are perfect, but my iMac has a spanish language keyboard and there are a LOT of commands that don't work. This happens with DP and even with regular OS commands (like Command-Tilde... it doesn't work. It must be reassigned in the preferences).

This is really annoying, especially if you are used to using tons of shortcuts. When the shortcut doesn't work then you have to hunt all over the menus... and remember where the commands are hidden.... I tend to forget where they are if I'm used to using the keyboard shortcut.

Yes. It can be frustrating. My advice: Just buy an english language keyboard (IF that's the issue).

[zaratero]

I´ve found this problem only with keystrokes containing punctuation marks and keys having a punctuation mark as the main symbol.
This is the right side of the keyboard mainly.
I take very good care to bckup all my preferences and keycommands. This is a combination of DP´s and now Quickey´s(Thanks Shoosh!),then my shuttle´s, to have my edit controls working.

Now I believe I´ve achieved a good balance, I can use my spanish keyboard, and have all the punctuation marks where I´m used to have them for word typing, and I don´t have commands(among those I use) failing anymore.
It was a pain in the ass though.

now, just for the sake of moaning (long day of boring digitazing of stuff)
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FM:
Cmmd_Tilde works everytime everysoft in all my macs