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Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:53 pm
by Tidwells@aol.com
IK Multimedia is offering this as a free download until September 30, but since I would have to upgrade my MacOS to a slightly higher version to use it, I would appreciate any feedback/opinions from anyone who currently uses this. I've kept my music-only Mac Mini "frozen" on Mavericks for the last 5 years and I'm reluctant to upgrade since it works so well right now....Note that this is the budget-size version of the VI, not the full library....

Doug

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:30 pm
by James Steele
Tidwells@aol.com wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:53 pm IK Multimedia is offering this as a free download until September 30, but since I would have to upgrade my MacOS to a slightly higher version to use it, I would appreciate any feedback/opinions from anyone who currently uses this. I've kept my music-only Mac Mini "frozen" on Mavericks for the last 5 years and I'm reluctant to upgrade since it works so well right now....Note that this is the budget-size version of the VI, not the full library....

Doug
What is the minimum requirement? I'm not sure to be honest. There's the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Hopefully others will pipe up. I know I have the full version working on my Mac, but it is Intel, last updated I think NINE YEARS ago. Pretty sure it's END OF LIFE and it won't ever be native if that's important to you some day. The samples themselves might already be accessible in SampleTank? Not sure.

Ugh... you could go either way, depending on your Mac, High Sierra wouldn't necessarily be that bad and if you are using an SSD, you could upgrade to using APFS file format which is superior by all accounts.

Safe move is to stand pat I guess. You could also always download it and store the installer in a safe place and install in the future should you upgrade your Mac at some point. Like I said, I think it even is working on my M1 Max Mac Studio in Rosetta.

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:40 pm
by Tidwells@aol.com
Minimum requirement is MacOs 10.10. I'm on 10.9.5 (Mavericks).

Doug

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:45 pm
by Tidwells@aol.com
Also, my 2012 Mac Mini is a quad-processor 2.6 Ghz (or is that Mhz??) Intel I-7 with 16 gb of ram.

Doug

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:20 pm
by bayswater
Miroslav has its own sound. If you like it, it’s fine. I don’t use it so much any more, but it was fine when I did, and it worked consistently.

As for the OS version, I’m all for leaving working systems alone, but Mavericks is getting a bit thread bare. There must be a whole lot of stuff that doesn’t work in it any more, including recent versions of DP. My bet is anything that works on it will work on High Sierra, unless it’s like 20 years old.

In any case, why not just get Miroslav now, and decide whether to update macOS later. At least you’ll have the option.

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:21 pm
by mhschmieder
A pretty good chunk of that lib got put into SampleTank one version ago, maybe even more of it in current version, but I don't think the wind/breath controller mappings made it.

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:53 pm
by cuttime
I do think it had its place at one time, but it is very dated now. You probably won't think that a system update is worth it. I think a far better option at the same (free) price is BBCSOD:

https://www.spitfireaudio.com/bbc-symph ... a-discover

It won't run on Mavericks, either.

Palette Primary Colors is another GREAT free alternative that will run on the full version of Kontakt that I think should be compatible with your system:

https://redroomaudio.com/product/palett ... ry-colors/

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:15 am
by Tidwells@aol.com
Thanks to all 3 of you for opinions on Miroslav plus recommended options. I appreciate it! I've been using Garritan's Instant Orchestra for years and wanted to see if I could "take a step up" with orchestral VI's for little or no cost. Inflation has not raised my income. :D

Doug

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:35 am
by daniel.sneed
I've played the previous release of Miroslav for some projects.
The sound was fine to my ears, but IMHO recorded very wet.
I like to take control of hall reverb, rather than dealing with reverb inside samples.
But, I did love the bassoon, though.

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:22 am
by mikehalloran
IK is having installation issues with the full version of Philharmonik 2 over Ventura—I am working with them to get that resolved. Philharmonik 2 CE installs fine. It can be called from SampleTank 4 or the stand alone Miroslav player.

All versions of SampleTank 4 use the same player including the free CS version.

The Miroslav libraries are a bit dated but can be quite useful. They don't have a large footprint which is nice.

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:15 pm
by James Steele
mikehalloran wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:22 am IK is having installation issues with the full version of Philharmonik 2 over Ventura
Hmmm... I guess it's good I installed it back when my Mac came with Monterey. I don't really use it much, though.

Re: Opinions on Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE?

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:30 pm
by mikehalloran
James Steele wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:15 pm
mikehalloran wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:22 am IK is having installation issues with the full version of Philharmonik 2 over Ventura
Hmmm... I guess it's good I installed it back when my Mac came with Monterey. I don't really use it much, though.
It was fine in Monterey for me, too. Unfortunately, to solve my original installation problem, I wiped IKM from my system—which did fix that issue but left me unable to re-install the full version. I know what the problem is and how to fix it but I suspect that the support people I'm dealing with do not speak English well enough to understand what I'm saying, including that Ventura changed things and the IK Product Manager is not as compatible as they think.