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This video is what convinced me to get the Band Delays one (the vocals section especially):
Terry
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:11 pm
by terrybritton
I'm going to try using the Band Delay unit to splay the frequencies out into the stereo field of a reverb plugin to try to accomplish an asymmetrical reverberation space, with hard spaces on one side and open spaces on the other, for instance, and simulate varying absorption characteristics in the stereo field of the reverb, and thus produce more interesting direction-based late and early reflections, perhaps. It always bothered me how reverbs seem to all sound like the absorptive and reflective elements were evenly spaced around the reverb environment like the uniform plush seats and symmetrical walls in a concert hall.
Well, we'll see what comes of that!
Terry
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:13 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
I saw that video and, frankly, it made little impression. I could hear the subtle changes but nothing that warranted dropping $80, let alone $199. It reminds me of the chrome tailpipe finish Honda offered me on my car. Sure, it’ll look shiny but I won’t see it and most people won’t notice it. Essentially, gilding the lily.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:31 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
I stand corrected. That’s not the same video I saw earlier. The linked video convinced me that the extra band plugin is definitely not for me. I don’t need that kind of effect often (maybe not ever). If I do, I can accomplish it with existing plugs. In fact, I preferred the dry sound to the active plug in sound in every example. I’ll keep my $80. Thanks for the link. It really helped me decide. As far as the H3000... I effin love it.
Re: Plug-in Sales and Special Deals Sticky Topic
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:12 pm
by terrybritton
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I stand corrected. That’s not the same video I saw earlier. The linked video convinced me that the extra band plugin is definitely not for me. I don’t need that kind of effect often (maybe not ever). If I do, I can accomplish it with existing plugs. In fact, I preferred the dry sound to the active plug in sound in every example. I’ll keep my $80. Thanks for the link. It really helped me decide. As far as the H3000... I effin love it.
Good darn thing I got both of them, then!
Playing with them both later tonight. For me, the Band Delay might come in handy for some synth effects and perhaps for the reverb tricks.
Terry
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:21 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
I totally see how it can be useful, just not for me - at least not in my usual work. I tend to be something of a purist in terms of design and EQ, reverb use, etc. when it comes to basic products. It should sound real.
When I do sound design work I also apply that but if the project calls for something more 'extreme' I feel that I have enough tools, as is, and this wouldn't really help that work. OTOH, if I were doing restoration kind of work, this could be extremely useful if used precisely and judiciously. At least, that's how it seems to me. So $199 isn't too much for that kind of control, but if you don't need it, then $79 is waaaay too much.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 2:56 pm
by terrybritton
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:OTOH, if I were doing restoration kind of work, this could be extremely useful if used precisely and judiciously. At least, that's how it seems to me. So $199 isn't too much for that kind of control, but if you don't need it, then $79 is waaaay too much.
Restoration work? Interesting! I'll have to think on that!
Sweetwater convinced me it was only $2 a month for each (48-month financing on my Sweetwater card), so they got me to go for it.
Terry
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:03 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
terrybritton wrote:
Restoration work? Interesting! I'll have to think on that!
What I'm thinking is having control over very specific frequencies, especially across specified time, has the potential to hone in on unwanted artifacts as well as heightening desirable frequencies. I might be incorrect in that assumption, but isn't that basically what noise reduction does, only more 'wholesale?"
OK, NOW I'm thinking i should buy the bandy stuff... grrrrrr!
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:26 pm
by terrybritton
BTW - I really enjoyed this demo - using only a Juno 2 with a HW H3000.
Terry
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:28 pm
by terrybritton
And this comparison of the HW H3000 with the plugin.
Terry
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:02 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
I mess around a little with the M3000 tonight and threw it on MachFive with a little improvised stuff. Four tracks. I like it!
6/10 -7/12 2019 NUGEN Audio focus bundle - including Stereoizer, Stereoplacer, and Monofilter. Not live on the Sweetwater website BUT they do have it. Some of the best tools of what they are doing.
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:22 am
by Basstrup
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