Steinberg PADSHOP and GROOVE AGENT crashes my DP 11 - RESOLVED (MediaBay updated)

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Re: Steinberg PADSHOP and GROOVE AGENT crashes my DP 11

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...but next thing I'm going to try is install 11.5.0 and see if it will co-exist with the newer versions as a band-aid. I heard from MOTU that Steinberg is supposed to update MediaBay at some point to fix but they haven't.
Okay... well that DID NOT WORK. DP crashed immediately on loading HALion (AU FYI).

MediaBay is the culprit. So the bandaid for now is to uninstall MediaBay and the Steinberg plugins will work... at least they do for me... albeit with some limited sound browsing capability it seems.
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Re: Steinberg PADSHOP and GROOVE AGENT crashes my DP 11

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TY James! Will try this this weekend
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Re: Steinberg PADSHOP and GROOVE AGENT crashes my DP 11

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greg328 wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 6:53 pm TY James! Will try this this weekend
Cool... it is working here and I'm able to browse lots of presets in HALion, Padshop and Groove Agent. Backbone pops up with blank interface and The Grand still crashes.
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Steinberg PADSHOP and GROOVE AGENT crashes my DP 11

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Just an update. After you run MediaBay Uninstaller.app, the next time you launch Steinberg Download Assistant, it will detect that MediaBay is missing and reinstall it. See screenshot:

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At first I was excited when I saw this, hoping that Steinberg had released an updated (fixed) version, but apparently it's not out yet, so it reinstalled 1.1.70 and, as I expected, HALion, etc. crashes DP again. So be aware that until there is a fixed MediaBay from Steinberg, you'll have to run MediaBay Uninstaller.app and remove it again. I went ahead and copied the uninstaller app from the .dmg to my drive so it will be easy for me to uninstall MediaBay in the future.
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Re: Steinberg PADSHOP and GROOVE AGENT crashes my DP 11

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Thanks a lot James,
Your advice to deinstall MediaBay solved the issue. Now Groove Agent 5.x runs and doesn't crash DP11.

If Steinberg Download Assistant installs Media Bay again, I'll deinstall it.

James Steele wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 3:18 pm Just an update. After you run MediaBay Uninstaller.app, the next time you launch Steinberg Download Assistant, it will detect that MediaBay is missing and reinstall it. See screenshot:


updatingmediabay.jpg


At first I was excited when I saw this, hoping that Steinberg had released an updated (fixed) version, but apparently it's not out yet, so it reinstalled 1.1.70 and, as I expected, HALion, etc. crashes DP again. So be aware that until there is a fixed MediaBay from Steinberg, you'll have to run MediaBay Uninstaller.app and remove it again. I went ahead and copied the uninstaller app from the .dmg to my drive so it will be easy for me to uninstall MediaBay in the future.
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miket wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 2:00 pm Thanks a lot James,
Your advice to deinstall MediaBay solved the issue. Now Groove Agent 5.x runs and doesn't crash DP11.

If Steinberg Download Assistant installs Media Bay again, I'll deinstall it.
Well, one of these days Steinberg will update MediaBay and hopefully fix this issue, which, AFAIK is only affecting DP. However, when I spoke with someone at MOTU they claim that it's something Steinberg needs to fix. I forgot the rationale, but it made sense when it was explained to me.

You can get the latest version of MediaBay by going here:
https://o.steinberg.net/en/support/down ... ro_13.html

At the top you'll see the download for MediaBay:

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ACTUALLY THEY MAY HAVE JUST RELEASED THE NEW VERSION!!!!

I was going to write how you needed to download it and then mount the .dmg and it would show you the version number. The problem version was 1.1.70 and earlier. Well just now I did this and it shows that it is now version 1.1.80! This MIGHT be the fix we've been waiting for. I'm installing from the downloaded installer instead of Steinberg Download Assistant, but I'm very hopeful! I'll report back!!!
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GREAT NEWS.... MEDIA BAY 1.1.80 IS OUT TODAY AND IT FIXES ISSUES WITH DP!!!!

I just verified it. Both downloading the installer direct or letting Steinberg Download Assistant update/install it on launch. MediaBay 1.1.70 is replaced by MediaBay 1.1.80 and it fixes the problems with Digital Performer!!!!

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YAY! So this means that Halion and Groove Agent and Padshop et al, "should" open now in DP?

I'll install the new Mediabay in the AM with fingers, toes and eyes crossed--hoping!

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James--good news all around--!

Off topic--I'm noticing all our timestamps on each post are wayyyyy off. Is this something you need to adjust on your end?

Since everybody's seems off--I'm surmising it's a global setting on your side--??

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Let's see what it says when I post now.
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it's okay for me. What you need to do I think is go into your User Control Panel and choose Board Settings and it lets you select the time zone that you live in and then it should be correct. The board doesn't know where you live by your IP.
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James Steele wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:17 am it's okay for me. What you need to do I think is go into your User Control Panel and choose Board Settings and it lets you select the time zone that you live in and then it should be correct. The board doesn't know where you live by your IP.
Yes you were correct, sorry to bother, I've got it fixed now!
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Re: Steinberg PADSHOP and GROOVE AGENT crashes my DP 11 - RESOLVED (MediaBay updated)

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greg328 wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:32 am
James Steele wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:17 am it's okay for me. What you need to do I think is go into your User Control Panel and choose Board Settings and it lets you select the time zone that you live in and then it should be correct. The board doesn't know where you live by your IP.
Yes you were correct, sorry to bother, I've got it fixed now!
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The long wait is over! Thanks for sharing the news, James.

You continue to amaze with your commitment to sharing knowledge.

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By the way, I upgraded Cubase 13 pro to the latest version and, as usual, Steinberg Download manager updated also Media Bay... Thus, I checked whether Groove Agent would crash again DP 11.32 but, to my amazement, now the virtual instrument is loaded fine... Perhaps, Steinberg did sometihing to fix it.
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