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Audio to MIDI

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I have some DI guitar and audio synth tracks I want to copy audio to MIDI. Unfortunately, I can only select one of 2 instead of 3 conversion types. Melodyne is not available. I want to essentially convert audio to MIDI, then send that MIDI to an instrument track. This would save having to buy an expensive and annoying glitchy guitar to MIDI pickup and processor. Any suggestions as to where I am going wrong? I also seem to have automatically updated to 11.3.94678 when I specifically set it NOT to auto update.
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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Yea, I'm seeing the same thing. Melodyne is greyed out. First time I've tried using it.

When I did render it using the available option, it didn't get the polyphonic bits.
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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DP 11.3 and 11.31 made some improvements in Audio to MIDI functionality that got a major update in DP 11.2. MOTU has videos that can take you through the basics. This one from David Das is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oFBPI5Ro74
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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The video shows Melodyne as an option. But in my DP (latest version), the Melodyne is greyed out; just as it is with @wilkinsi.

I had recently installed a demo of Melodyne, and it might have caused some issues installing over DP's version of it (?).

I guess I can try reinstalling DP, to see if that corrects it.
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The VST3 version of Melodyne must be enabled in DP's Plugins Preferences, even if you are using the AU. ARA compatibility should follow. Audio menu>ARA.
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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stubbsonic wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:17 pm The video shows Melodyne as an option. But in my DP (latest version), the Melodyne is greyed out; just as it is with @wilkinsi.

I had recently installed a demo of Melodyne, and it might have caused some issues installing over DP's version of it (?).
That's right. I installed Essentials on my laptop instead of Studio just to check out the functionality. I have Melodyne Studio installed on my Studio. I can emulate Essentials if I wanted but DP only calls up the one version.
I guess I can try reinstalling DP, to see if that corrects it.
No need to reinstall DP. Melodyne is downloaded and activated separately. You should be able to remove Studio and reinstall Essentials.

To Uninstall Melodyne:

https://helpcenter.celemony.com/M5/doc/ ... standAlone

From the DP Getting Started Guide:
Melodyne Essentials is included with Digital Performer 11.2. Log in to your motu.com account to redeem your serial number and view instructions for how to install and activate Melodyne Essentials.
From motu.com (my User Account):
Now included with Digital Performer 11, Melodyne 5 Essential™ is an ARA2 plug-in that delivers unrivaled, state-of-the-art pitch editing and beat editing to your tracks using industry-recognized, Grammy-Award-winning algorithms. You can use Melodyne’s processing to sculpt your vocals and other tracks directly within the context of your production. Melodyne also produces excellent results with DP’s “Copy Audio to MIDI” feature, which converts pitched audio, percussive audio and drum loops to MIDI notes.

You can upgrade to more advanced versions of Melodyne at any time to unlock even more editing and control.

If you already own Melodyne, you can use your Melodyne essential serial number below as a coupon in the Celemony web shop when purchasing an update or upgrade.

To install and activate Melodyne Essentials, click the button above to jump to the Melodyne web site to register your copy and download your unique Melodyne Essential installer. After installation, the first time you run Melodyne within DP (using the ARA menu), you’ll be asked to activate your copy of Melodyne Essential.
As an AU, Melodyne runs as it always has. To use as an ARA2 plug-in, one must activate and run the VST3 version.
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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cuttime wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:39 pm The VST3 version of Melodyne must be enabled in DP's Plugins Preferences, even if you are using the AU. ARA compatibility should follow. Audio menu>ARA.
Enabling the VST3 version did the trick.

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Ha! I was going to mention that you have to enable the VST3 version of Melodyne… but I just assumed most users knew that.
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There's an AU version and VST3 version. I hadn't bothered to try this feature (no need), so it flew under my radar. I didn't even realize it used the plugin.

It will come in handy though-- especially for getting a rough start on something. In the quick test I did, it seemed to work pretty well (about 80% accurate) with it's biggest weakness being leaving out notes (which is probably the best case-- I..e, when it doubt...)
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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YMMV with the Melodyne conversion. I actually got better results with Basic Pitch.

https://basicpitch.spotify.com/

There are a number online audio to MIDI converters.
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With the advent of de-mixers (unmixers?), I should imagine the ability to get a good starting point on transcriptions would be pretty nice.

Thanks for linking the Spotify tool, 2/2. Will check it out.
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Ah. So I don't even have Melodyne or ADA installed... That wasn't in the video..
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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so I installed Melodyne 5 as both AU and VST. Didn't show as an option in audio to MIDI. Not sure I downloaded the correct version. What links should I be using to download Melodyne and ADA from for Mac OS X Ventura 13.6.1?
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Re: Audio to MIDI

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If I'm not mistaken, DP's installer should take care of installing Melodyne. Did you see the instruction above where you have to go to:

Digital Performer / Settings... / General / Audio plugins

Then scroll down in the plugins list until you see the VST3 plugins start appearing in the list. Click on the check box for Melodyne's VST3. When you click DONE, it will do a reload of the audio system. Then check to see if Melodyne is now ready to meet your Audio-to-MIDI desires.
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stubbsonic wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 11:39 amThen scroll down in the plugins list until you see the VST3 plugins start appearing in the list. Click on the check box for Melodyne's VST3. When you click DONE, it will do a reload of the audio system. Then check to see if Melodyne is now ready to meet your Audio-to-MIDI desires.
Just to be on the safe side, also check to make sure that the AU version of Melodyne is un-checked. Pretty sure it's possible to have both formats load at once and that could be confusing.
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