Thinking of upgrading to MASCHINE

[bun-chan]

anybody got BPM and MASCHINE?
let me know your thoughts please.

i like how maschine can sample and chop up the samples.
ciao.

[Redlion]

I made the same move about 6 months ago. Here's some Pros and Cons from my point of view of course.

Pros...

Maschine's controller is mapped perfectly..
Software Crashes Less than BPM while chopping samples
You can use BPM inside of Maschine since it hosts VST's
Maschine's Controller can be mapped to BPM if you wanna use BPM Standalone

Cons....
Maschine has a little larger learning curve than BPM
I think UVI Instruments sound better than Native Instruments Sounds
You can't Layer drum sounds on a pad in Maschine... you have to pad link.
Maschine has a limit to the number of effects per pad... BPM Doesn't

These are a few things off the top of my head.

Macbook Pro, 2.66 Intel I7 w/ 8GB of Ram
Presonus 1818vsl
MOTU BPM with the Producer Pack UVI set
NI Maschine with Komplete 8

[bun-chan]

i'm not sure why this is happening.
There are only 4 banks of pads in BPM, and something like 8 in maschine.
Since it's software the maximum number of banks should be up to the PC's memory, not automatically set in the software to 4.
The blank template should just have one bank.
Then if i need i can add a 2nd bank.
and a 3rd, 4th, 10th if needed.
why limit the number of banks to 4?
same deal with racks.
just put each instrument in its own rack and then cut and paste the fx if i want to.why have just 2?

This isn't a complaint but it's not hardware, it's software so it should be flexible.
Saying that, most people probably don't even use the 4th bank anyway.
But it would be nice.

and why are there only 16 scenes.
same reasoning as above.
it's software and my pc has 16GB of ram and tonnes of external hard drives. so as long as my pc can handle it then there should be no limit to the number of scenes.

i really like making beats in BPM.
it's fast. soo fast.
the sounds are good. and UVI stuff integrates perfectly. and UVI sounds are good.
the fx are good. they are easy to use and i can apply as many as i want.

if it could "cut n dice" then i wouldn't even consider maschine.

my padKontrol works well with BPM.
and my oxygen25 is fine to play synth basses.
au revoir

[joker77]

I have both Maschine and BPM, they are both useful. I'd love to see BPM get a big update like the next guy though,and hopefully it does. I don't find one better then the other. They both work really well at what they are intended to do.

Though I do hope that the slicing can be done on one page in one screen in the future in bpm,as well as the sampling without the need for a second app.
Also I hope they consider the option for better keymapping, though I already own Mach Five for this,it's nice to be able to work professionally in one environment.

[saintjoe]

I own both as well, there are things I like about both. I love the sound and layering/mixer in BPM, but trying to do anything in terms of sampling, slicing, etc...isn't fun at all. Love the integration with Motu/UVI sounds. BPM has a drum synth as well, which is nice.

Maschine, it's just another type of instrument, has it's own controller, host plugins as well as fully integrated with NI products, and sampling/slicing is smooth. It doesn't layer drums like BPM, which I feel it needs a simple option as well. But you can layer multiple drums on a pad, up to 128 samples per pad, it's laid out like kontakt though, so not as instant as BPM.

I like to use BPM as a drum/sample design tool and drag those sounds into Maschine. Layering and building composite drums in BPM is just much faster.

It's really a matter of what you want, as both have their good and bad to them, but both are good at what they do, they are definitely not identical or redundant imo.