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Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:55 pm
by FMiguelez
Hello.

I wonder if you guitar players know of a resource/book that lists all guitar triads/7th chords (and taller chords with tensions) using the simple Tabs nomenclature (not tablature) and the corresponding voicing on the piano on a grand staff for each chord.

This is what I mean by simple tabs>
https://www.101computing.net/guitar-chords-reader/

That, plus the keyboard voicing equivalent, so I can easily search for the chords and see how they are to be voiced on the piano correctly (so my guitar VIs sound more realistic).

I know some, and I can deduct them, but it takes a while and some mental power, and I'd rather put that to use for something else :)

I've searched and searched, but haven't found exactly what I need.

Thanks guys!

Re: Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:25 pm
by rickorick
What about Mel Bay’s Deluxe Encyclopedia for Guitar Chords. I have a copy that I use to look up chords I don’t know. It has
voicing’s on the bottom 4 strings the middle 4 and the top 4. It spells the chords out 1,3,5,7,9 etc. Also Mickey Baker’s book 1
has a lot of good information. And of course once you get 1 chord you can drag it around and put it in different keys. Or just ask here I sure a lot of guys here will tell you the voicing. Sometimes I just tune the guitar to get the voicing I want.

Re: Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:28 pm
by bayswater
I don't recall the Mel Bay book showing the piano voicings, although I haven't looked at it for a few decades. I have a very old edition.

Re: Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:46 pm
by rickorick
I just picked a random page G7b9 low to high F B D Ab, that’s the guitar voicing on piano you could play the G & F with your left hand and the B D Ab with your right and you would have the guitar voicing with a extra bass note.

Re: Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:48 pm
by rickorick
I found mine I have the $6.95 version.

Re: Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:01 am
by greg328
Just avoid thirds down low and you’ll be close enough! That’s how I do it!


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Re: Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:54 am
by FMiguelez
Thank you so much guys!

I'm trying to peek the inside of the book. I found a place called Scrib that sort of lets me see some of the content (dimmed out).
AFAIS it does not spell out the voicings on a piano grand staff. It shows me how I can play it on the guitar and I can then deduce it on the keyboard, but that's what I'm trying to avoid :)

That would be the PERFECT book if it had, next to each guitar chord tab, the piano voicing.

Now I see a bunch of similar books in Amazon. I'll keep clicking on them to see if I find something like that. I mean, there must be something like that already out there, right?

Yeah, avoiding smaller intervals in the lower strings... that's been my "method" so far too :) , but it doesn't always work, especially with tensions :(

Re: Quick question to guitarists from a pianist...

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:17 am
by bayswater
I had never thought about the grand staff for guitar chords. I looked at a few books yesterday and didn't see any that did this. I have seen posters that have it, but they, for obvious reasons, don't cover many chords.

The other thing is that all chords have several positions and voicings within each position just as they would on a piano. And because a guitar is limited to 6 notes, a lot of the more complicated chords leave out one or more notes, depending on the position, and the sound you want. So when you ask what notes on a piano correspond to E7flat9 on a guitar, the answer is pretty much whatever notes cover all or some of the notes in that chord.

On avoiding lower thirds, generally that's fine, but I guess Lou Reed never thought about it.